Fiery Debate: Ventura and Nuno Santos Clash on Immigration and Ethics

End of the Debate

The debate wrapped up with Pedro Nuno Santos and André Ventura exchanging vigorous arguments on immigration and economic solutions amid a backdrop of trade wars. The only point of agreement was the necessity of regulating immigrant entry, though their approaches diverged significantly.

Ventura's Ethical Challenge

Pedro Nuno asserted that André Ventura and his party, Chega, lack the moral authority to criticize others, stating, "André Ventura says he cleans and organizes... it depends, he is selective." He highlighted that a convicted member of Ventura's party remains on their list of deputies, questioning their commitment to ethics.

A Secure Change

Nuno Santos emphasized that the Socialist Party (PS) represents a secure change, positioning it as the responsible choice for Portugal's future.

Ethical Standards in Politics

Ventura criticized Nuno Santos for including Hugo Mendes, associated with a controversial TAP indemnity, in the PS's candidate list, labeling it a poor ethical example. Ventura urged politicians to regain public trust through transparency.

Immigration Issues

Ventura presented a photo of Nuno Santos with immigrants to underscore his point that when issues arose, he did not seek police intervention. Nuno Santos countered that quotas for immigration have not worked in the past and proposed strengthening consular services instead.

Promises of Dismissals

If elected Prime Minister, Ventura vowed to dismiss the director of the Migration Observatory on his first day in office, signaling a hardline stance on immigration.

The Need for an Enemy

Pedro Nuno accused Ventura of perpetuating fear around immigration, claiming that Chega thrives on creating an enemy to justify its existence. He insisted there is no direct link between crime and immigration.

Differences in Crime Policies

Nuno Santos stated he is against all criminals and highlighted that Portuguese law already includes penalties that lead to the expulsion of criminals. He expressed his commitment to ensuring that anyone who commits a crime in Portugal serves their sentence.

Crime and Deportation

Ventura reiterated his stance on deporting criminals, claiming that those who commit crimes should be sent back to their countries. He argued that Portugal cannot afford the influx of immigrants.

Criticism of Current Immigration Policies

Ventura attacked the PS for its immigration policies, labeling them chaotic and irresponsible, and criticized the potential for millions of immigrants in a country of 11 million people.

Balanced Immigration Approach

Nuno Santos urged a balanced approach to immigration, advocating for regulated and legal entry channels while emphasizing the need to avoid stigmatizing communities.

Irresponsibility of Chega's Proposals

Nuno Santos dismissed Chega's proposals as unrealistic and irresponsible, suggesting they should not be taken seriously.

Clear Policy Direction

Ventura concluded with a promise for straightforward governance, aiming to cut through bureaucracy and inefficiency.

Economic Burden on Companies

Ventura promised that tax reductions for companies would not be contingent upon the PS, criticizing the PS's taxation policies as burdensome.

Election Strategy

Ventura accused the PS of electoralism, suggesting they are only interested in votes ahead of the elections.

Attacks on Nuno Santos

Ventura attempted to link Nuno Santos to the failures of the current government, questioning his capability to manage multiple ministries effectively.

Commitment to Tax Reduction

Nuno Santos assured that the PS would continue its tax reductions, focusing on essential goods and the cost of living.

Critique of Protectionism

Nuno Santos warned that Ventura's protectionist policies would harm the national economy, emphasizing the need for a careful balance in immigration and economic policy.